23 May 2006

Left vs. Left

A few weeks a ago, Yancy linked to Peter Beinart's piece, The Rehabilitation of the Cold-War Liberal. I linked to Michael Tomasky's Party In Search of a Notion. Both pieces scour the past for answers to the Democratic Party's current troubles with national security and a unifying vision.

Now, Tomasky has reviewed Beinart's new book. I thought I'd post this as a continuation of our look at where we are and where the Democrats can take us.

Not So Fast
Peter Beinart's The Good Fight is a pretty solid history, if you assume that history ends in the spring of 2003.

By Michael Tomasky


The Good Fight: Why Liberals -- and Only Liberals -- Can Win the War on Terror and Make America Great Again by Peter Beinart (HarperCollins, 304 pages, $25.95)

Has the time come for liberals to put Iraq behind us? The answer depends to some extent on which Iraq we’re talking about. Iraq the Reality still rages, and we can be certain that we will be enmeshed in the region in one way or another for a long time. Iraq the Debate, however, is already in some sense a relic of the past. Three years ago, liberals for and against the war tore into one another, the arguments in some cases rupturing friendships between people who took opposing sides (and in one case I know, between two who were both hawks!). But isn’t it time now to look to the future, fashioning a set of principles about foreign policy, national security, and the fight against terrorism on which all liberals can more or less agree?

There is something to be said for this view. It’s one I advance in an essay I wrote for a collection, edited by the historians Neil Jumonville and Kevin Mattson, that will be published soon by the University of California Press. But perhaps I was getting ahead of myself. Reading Peter Beinart reminds me that there are accounts still to be settled.

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Beinart really wants the conversation to be about the future, and with good reason: As the editor of The New Republic (he resigned just recently), Beinart led that journal into a posture of perfervid support of the Iraq War. In dispute of that adjective, he might direct the reader to any number of hedges and qualifications in TNR’s pages in the run-up to the war, and to a general claim that the magazine’s reasons for wanting war were not the same (in every particular) as the Bush administration’s reasons. Perhaps so. But to go back and read through Beinart’s “TRB” columns, unsigned TNR editorials, and other articles the magazine published in 2002 and 2003 is to be reminded afresh that, while TNR disagrees with the right most of the time, its real enemy is the left. So, on Iraq, TNR was intellectually pro-war, but emotionally anti–anti-war. The paroxysmal contempt for the war’s opponents combined with the docile credulousness toward Bush administration pro-war assertions (especially about Saddam Hussein’s alleged nuclear capability) render “perfervid” an entirely fair modifier.

TNR fancies itself contrarian in this regard -- the “liberal” magazine that had the “guts” to be pro-war. A few months back, Martin Peretz, one of the magazine’s owners and its editor-in-chief, sent out a juvenile letter to potential subscribers disparaging the predictable views of The Nation, The Weekly Standard, The National Review, and The American Prospect, and urging upon these weary and unchallenged readers his blessedly unpredictable TNR. In truth, TNR has been thusly “unpredictable” for so long now, every “contrarian” stand it takes is so utterly unsurprising, that the whole business has become a standing joke in some Washington circles. The only unexpected thing would have been for TNR to oppose the Iraq War.

It did not; but boy, did it oppose the opposers. And so, after the 2004 presidential election, which the Democrats lost chiefly because of their perceived and (mostly) real weakness on national security, Beinart sat himself down and wrote “A Fighting Faith,” a long essay in which he vilified the pinkos and the softies -- the “doughfaces,” as Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr. called them in The Vital Center -- who had brought the Democrats to their low station. Most of the piece’s 5,600 or so words were intelligent and unexceptionable ruminations on liberalism and foreign policy, with much of which I happen to agree. But just to drive the point home, Beinart argued that the real problem in the election had been “the party’s liberal base, which would have refused to nominate anyone who” without equivocation saw the Iraq War as central to the war on terror (TNR had endorsed Joe Lieberman for president). And he named names, decrying his two chief exemplars of doughfacery -- Michael Moore and MoveOn. Drawing a historical parallel with the struggles that engulfed the Democratic Party of 1948 -- when the party’s “hard” liberals encouraged those who were naive about the Soviet Union (or worse, working for it) to take a hike and sign up with Henry Wallace -- Beinart, whether he meant to or not, all but advocated purging the liberal critics of the war from the Democratic Party.

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Thus was born The Good Fight, based on that essay and signed after a ferocious bidding war jacked the price up to a reported $600,000 (another thing about left-bashing “contrarianism”: It pays).

To cut to the chase -- yes, he has toned down the bit about Michael Moore (about whom I have my own reservations) and MoveOn (now re-identified, after MoveOn took issue with some of his earlier claims, as an offshoot called MoveOn Peace). The original essay, in comparing MoveOn to Henry Wallace’s Progressive Party, had implicitly -- and very sloppily -- alleged that MoveOn contained actual al-Qaeda members among its ranks (that is, since the Progressive Party did have actual Communists, and since MoveOn was today’s analogue to it). In the penultimate chapter of The Good Fight, Beinart acknowledges that “there were no Salafists infiltrating MoveOn Peace,” although he is still critical of the organization, and of Moore. The book adds Howard Dean and his followers to this cahier des doleances, but the urge to purge is itself purged. What Beinart wants today is to persuade those to his left within the Democratic Party that they need to place the fight against terrorism at the center of the experience of being a liberal today.

Beinart’s central thesis -- as it were, the answer to the question raised in his subtitle -- is that today’s liberals can learn from the great era of Cold War liberalism the specific lesson that liberalism made America great precisely because it understood America’s potential to do harm. The narrative of that liberalism, Beinart writes:

begins not with America’s need to believe in itself, but with America’s need to make itself worthy of belief. Around the world, America does that by accepting international constraints on its power. For conservatives -- from John Foster Dulles to George W. Bush -- American exceptionalism means that we do not need such constraints. America’s heart is pure. But in the liberal vision, it is precisely our recognition that we are not angels that makes us exceptional. Because we recognize that we can be corrupted by unlimited power, we accept the restraints that empires refuse.

From that thesis, Beinart shows -- in telling the story of the creation of Americans for Democratic Action, of the Marshall Plan, of Kennedy’s vision that winning the Cold War abroad required getting closer to living up to our professed ideals at home -- how liberalism up through Vietnam adhered (enough of the time, anyway) to this Niebuhrian doctrine of self-restraint, and how fealty to that principle, combined with a clear-eyed recognition of the nature of the external threat, succeeded both in maintaining liberalism’s political pre-eminence and in keeping the totalitarian enemy at bay.

Beinart then chronicles the collapse of this “anti-totalitarian liberalism” in the 1960s. He is no apologist for the men who brought us Vietnam. But the upshot of the decade, for Beinart’s purposes, was that the liberalism that followed the Vietnam schism, while retaining “many of the same domestic principles” as the older liberalism, “no longer connected them to the struggle for freedom around the world.” Liberalism became isolationist, skeptical of American power, anti-imperialist; and this mindset, never really replaced by anything else in 40 years’ time, is at the core of what is preventing the Democratic Party from fashioning a credible response to the Republicans’ proposals regarding terrorism today.

I say never really replaced, but for Beinart -- as for other liberal backers of the Iraq War such as Paul Berman and George Packer -- the lineaments of something new were sketched out in the Balkans in the 1990s, as successful interventions in Bosnia and Kosovo signaled the possibility of a new foreign-policy liberalism, less like the Vietnam-era variant and more like its 1948 cousin. But how similar were Kosovo and Iraq? Air sorties in familiar Europe undertaken with the support of NATO allies are one thing, while a full-fledged ground war in an alien and hostile land undertaken with only token backing from a hodgepodge of favor-currying nations is quite another. And here we return to those unsettled accounts.

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It takes Beinart just four pages to make his confession about Iraq: “I was wrong.” He deploys the three little words, which have miraculously eluded the grasp of just about every other liberal war supporter save Fred Kaplan of Slate (who came clean ages ago), without hesitation. For this, Beinart deserves some credit.

On the strength of this short passage, Beinart will be limned by some as having “recanted” his Iraq position, and to a certain extent he obviously has. But the point of this book is not simply to broach a reconsideration of Iraq. Beinart’s purpose here is to describe a future, rooted in a particular argument about the past, into which he wants the rest of us to follow him. So the question that liberals and Democrats must sort out before moving forward is whether the Iraq War can in any conceivable way be placed in the tradition of Cold War liberalism that Beinart and I admire. Beinart doesn’t address this directly. He gestures toward addressing it, noting the “grim irony that this book’s central argument is one I myself ignored when it was needed most” and acknowledging that he has not always been liberalism’s “most faithful custodian.” But why only gesture? The answer to the above question about whether the Iraq War belongs to the tradition of Cold War liberalism is a reverberating, ear-splitting “no.” The ’48ers, according to Beinart’s own argument, were masters of restraint. They would never have endorsed a unilateral and “preventive” war like the current one. They fought conservatives advocating “rollback” then (precursors to today’s neoconservatives); and, as of early 2003, two of them, Schlesinger and George F. Kennan, were still around to tell us that they opposed an invasion of Iraq.

If we are to move forward along lines Beinart suggests, we need to know whether Beinart and other liberal hawks will recognize the difference between antitotalitarian liberalism and conservatism, neo- or otherwise, when they see it. Unfortunately, Beinart slips and slides around this question. His chapter on Iraq, which rehearses the administration’s various arguments for war, reads at first blush like a wise and disinterested account of a tragic march to folly. But he writes about this period as if he’d spent it on a mountaintop in Tibet instead of editing an influential magazine and cheering on the administration virtually every step of the way -- and accusing war critics, not all of whom (news flash: not even a majority of whom) are anti-imperialist Chomskyites, of “intellectual incoherence” and “abject pacifism,” as he so unforgettably put matters to The Washington Post in February 2003. I resented those comments at the time personally, I still do, and I know a lot of people who feel similarly.

I share many of Beinart’s goals for the Democratic Party. I’m not entirely sure how he proposes that today’s Democrats make this Niebuhrian case about recognizing America’s potential to do harm; it doesn’t seem like a vote-getter, but, intellectually at least, he’s on to something. And I found his prescriptive chapter a bit thin. His proposals for how liberals should fight the war on terrorism -- a Marshall Plan for the Arab world, greater cooperation with the United Nations (where possible), and NATO -- are rather general (and, for all his huffing and puffing about doughfacery, every one could be endorsed by the very people he reproves in the previous chapter). Even with these limitations, though, his argument that there is much wisdom to be found today in liberal foreign policy of the 1947-1963 period, and that fighting terrorism must occupy a central place in the liberal schema, is sound.

But to give this subject book-length treatment without acknowledging plainly that the war in Iraq stands against the Cold War liberal tradition rather than within it damages, almost fatally, the credibility of the argument. So we’re supposed to sign up with the author’s vision of a revived ’48-ism, even though we know from his own written record that it could lead to another Iraq? I’d love to talk with Beinart about the future and only the future. But not just yet.

15 Comments:

At 25 May, 2006 07:26, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tomasky does a good job, first of all, at dissecting the New Republic. It's really a pretty great magazine, almost always a good read, but the unrelenting hawkishness gets tiresome, and leads them into untenable positions like supporting pre-emptive war. Tomasky is right to take Beinart to task on this.

The Democrats are not weak on defense. None of the potential '08 candidates is a peacenik (sorry, YHD).

But Democrats should not take what I presume to be Beinart's advice and exile the peaceniks altogether. The Dems are and have been the left/center-left party; if they refuse to accept that, then the Naderites will keep running and splitting the progressive vote time after time.

When you have a two-party system, you will always see people with violently opposite views on certain issues coexisting in the same party; the Republicans have the same problem. Alienating one core constituency or another always has negative repercussions for a party.

The Democrats can appease both the Beinarts and the pacifists simply by never ceding the military option while at the same time pledging (sad that such a pledge would ever have to be made) NEVER to engage in unilateral, pre-emptive war.

 
At 26 May, 2006 09:57, Blogger Unknown said...

Peacenik—well I never.

I did feel ambivalent about Afghanistan, but that did not stem from any naïve pacifism; rather, the methods and motives involved in that war (which, as it seems, has yet—for some reason—to result in a peaceful Afghanistan) put me off. WWII, though—apologies for the clichéd reference—raises no comparable misgivings.

I know I have been remiss as concerns this blog, but I promise some biting commentary will be here for you to enjoy come Monday morning.

In the meantime, I'll just comment on this line:
for all his huffing and puffing about doughfacery, every one [of Beinart's proposals] could be endorsed by the very people he reproves in the previous chapter.

I take it that I am in that camp (though I have not read Beinart's book, and so cannot be sure). As Tomasky asserts, the claim that American liberals must recognize American fallibility (and so be open to broad cooperation with the UN), and must realize that economic development is central to liberal foreign policy is sound.

Whatever the source of this advice, I like the advice.

 
At 26 May, 2006 15:02, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to recommend to all readers of this blog the book that YHD recommended to me a couple of years ago: Just and Unjust Wars, by Michael Walzer. He makes the same distinction YHD is doing here, between the question of whether a war itself is justified and whether its methods are justified.

But if you object to Afghanistan solely on methods, then you'd have to object to Allied operations in WWII even more strongly, no? In Afghanistan the civilian casualties have been collateral damage in the targeting of Taliban and Al Qaeda members; in Dresden and Hiroshima the civilians WERE the targets.

 
At 26 May, 2006 15:23, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, Yance, even if we have strayed from the original post a bit here, I commend you for not allowing us to do this.

 
At 30 May, 2006 08:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's Tuesday and we're still waiting on that biting commentary, YHD ...

 
At 30 May, 2006 14:22, Blogger Unknown said...

All apologies; I should never have promised so much more than I'm capable of delivering. In any case, the past few days have been a bit more hectic than anticipated (for which, feel free to see my other blog); but I'm here now. . . .

First off, there's a very interesting roundtable featuring Tomasky, Beinart, and Katrina vanden Heuvel of The Nation on nytimes.com. The roundtable, conducted by Times Book Review editor Barry Gewen, originally ran back in March, but it remains a good read.

When asked about “liberal foreign policy,” it’s interesting to note, Tomasky said, in part, that terrorism must be “the focus of a foreign policy.” Here’s part of Beinart’s reply:

I would just add that the Bush administration's guiding principle is a belief in military power, not a belief in human rights and democracy. . . . This is where liberals have a real opportunity. Conservatives today, like conservatives during the cold war in so many ways, do not have a sufficient appreciation of the nonmilitary aspects of American power in this struggle.

I think that Beinart’s addendum helps justify my affection for him of late. This focus appeals to me for two reasons: I think it is correct to see political freedom and economic security as central issues in foreign policy (hell, in domestic policy as well); and I like his focus for its own sake. These issues that Beinart keeps returning to highlight an area where liberals clearly differ from conservatives; not only that, but for better or worse—as I’ve mentioned before—they make for nice sound bites. Anti-corruption and the common weal are fine things, but I like a little content in my bites. . . .

As for Beinart’s past views and those of the New Republic, I again remain unconcerned and uninterested in character; it’s ideas I’m after (for the same reasons, I can never like John McCain). Beinart does say a bit about his support of the Iraq war in that roundtable, but I’ll treat that issue as settled.

Now, as for Afghanistan and WWII, I certainly did not mean to imply that I would endorse every Allied action in WWII, nor do I have misgivings about Afghanistan solely as a result of our inept methods there. The motives also trouble me, as I’m unconvinced that the vengeful popular support that war enjoyed was a good sign.

To that list I might also add results: at least the horrors of WWII led to a good end (not, again, that that justifies them). As the riots yesterday and the recent escalation of violence lately show, the war in Afghanistan has yet to achieve a good end. Yes, people’s lives there are arguably better than under the Taliban, but that’s setting the bar awfully low. Furthermore, after the Taliban was unseated, CIA director George Tenet told the Senate Intelligence Committee on 6 February 2002 (three months after Kabul fell) that despite the progress in Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda remained a serious threat.

In other words, the US invasion of Afghanistan has resulted neither in a stable government there nor in a reduced threat from Al-Qaeda.

Okay, don’t know how biting, but there’s my comment.

 
At 31 May, 2006 07:36, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So to sum up: The end doesn't justify the means, except when everything turns out OK. Our motives in Afghanistan are not pure like they were in WWII. Peter Beinart's support for the Iraq War was based on a character flaw, not ideology, which makes it OK since character doesn't matter.

I think it's clear that vengeance, fear, and racism probably played an even greater part in American motives during WWII than in the "war on terror." The internment of Japanese-Americans, done by our beloved FDR with full popular support, were a greater war crime than anything done under Bush/Cheney (as far as we know).

In Afghanistan, whatever the outcomes have been and will be, I still don't see how any president could have allowed the Taliban to continue harboring Al Qaeda. I don't think anyone was under the illusion that we'd create a democratic utopia there or that we'd be able to wipe out Al Qaeda entirely (though I agree the administration has bungled it, as they bungle everything).

As for Beinart, I don't see how character is relevant, unless you have some insight about him as a person that you'd like to share. It seems to me his initial support for the Iraq War originated from the same noble ideas you're lauding him for: spreading democracy, human rights, and economic well-being. At the roundtable, he says, "it is still entirely conceivable that there will be a role for the American military in this fight in the future -- not alone, I hope -- but in preventing a state from being a haven for the people who want to attack us."

In other words, Iraq all over again. I'm afraid the issue is NOT settled, not even among progressives.

When I talk about McCain's "character" I don't mean "moral values;" I mean intellectual honesty, political courage, and respect for the views of others. He doesn't always live to up to these standards, but he does as much or more than any contemporary pol I know of.

YHD, if you really believed that ideology trumped integrity (and despite what you say, I'm still convinced you don't), you wouldn't be much of a credit to your chosen profession.

 
At 31 May, 2006 08:55, Blogger Unknown said...

Here’s a quote from my previous comment: “at least the horrors of WWII led to a good end (not, again, that that justifies them).” Here’s your “summary,” DGL: “The end doesn't justify the means, except when everything turns out OK.” I fail to see how you got one from the other. In both the US invasion of Afghanistan and WWII, deplorable methods were employed; I only assert that one mark in the earlier conflict’s favor is the good accomplished—my point, then, is that were one to grant (which I do not) that ends justify means, Afghanistan still seems questionable, whereas WWII does not.

In the second world war, one motive surely was to stop the German and Japanese governments from continuing to commit atrocities; the only way to accomplish that end was war. Of that motive and that reasoning, I approve. In the case of Afghanistan it is not clear to me that unseating the Taliban was the best way to go after Al-Qaeda; indeed, Tenet’s remarks show that it clearly did not stop Al-Qaeda.

My reference to character was only intended to convey my belief that good advice can come from those who have given bad advice in the past. LBJ’s actions with respect to Vietnam do nothing, in my mind, to damage the good accomplished by the Civil Rights Act.

I don’t see how valuing democracy, human rights, and economic security can be reasonably seen as a justification for preemptive war. As Kofi Annan said to the Security Council (17 July 2003), on behalf of Iraqis, democracy cannot be “imposed” from without—indeed, claiming that it can is inherently contradictory.

I take it that Beinart's comments suggested that the security of the US—and not democracy, human rights, or economic security—would justify military action. Now, first of all it seems absurd to suggest that domestic security could never justify military action.

Second, this helps illustrate my point: although Beinart may be the sort of person who holds views I disagree with, I do agree with his focus on democracy and economic well-being.

You know, DGL, you're the second person in the past week who seems to have a conception of my "chosen profession" that differs radically from my own (sadly, the other is the chair of a Philosophy department). I'm interested in philosophy because I think that only views that have been rigorously examined ought to be endorsed. Integrity of argument, then, not of character is what turns me on.

That sentiment appears in Plato's Phaedo (and is misquoted, I believe, in Tristram Shandy): Socrates asks his listeners to "be thinking of the truth and not of Socrates."

 
At 31 May, 2006 09:55, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK. Now we're getting somewhere. These are good points.

I agree that the case for war against Japan and Germany was more obvious than the case against the Taliban, and that defeating the Taliban was not in itself going to win the larger war, unlike defeating Japan and Germany.

Still, as imperfect as the military option always is, I don't see what other option we had in the wake of 9/11. It was the clearest justification for war we've had since Pearl Harbor.

I'm still having trouble with your earlier comment that WWII "raises no comparable misgivings" to Afghanistan; it seems the two are quite comparable, and the atrocities in WWII were if anything more severe.

I think it's pretty clear that human rights, etc. CAN be used as a justification for unprovoked military action. There was obviously a severe human rights crisis in Iraq under Saddam, and sanctions weren't helping. Kofi, we "imposed" liberal democracy in Germany and Japan; why not in Iraq?

I'm not saying we were right to invade Iraq, only that the case could be made, even from a humanitarian liberal perspective. In some ways, Beinart's brand of liberalism isn't really that different from neoconservatism. I think that's why Tomasky is skeptical.

When I referred to your "chosen profession," I actually meant academia as a whole, not philosophy in particular. I agree with the sentiment of the Phaedo quote; that's precisely why I'm curious about your thoughts on the content of McCain's Liberty U speech.

You have rejected McCain on the basis of ideology without allowing any "integrity of argument" on his part; this to my mind is a close-minded view, seemingly anathema to the intellectual openness and rigor that I associate with academia.

That's why I was also disappointed with the NYU students who wanted Bob Kerrey to disinvite McCain just because he had spoken at Liberty. He has shown an openness to liberal viewpoints; liberals should respond in kind. Otherwise, what is liberalism even for?

 
At 31 May, 2006 14:04, Anonymous Anonymous said...

rmfd says...
Shifting focus slightly from this excellent exchange...
It seems the big fallacy is to promote and bequeth democracy worldwide from the womb of war.
When I was in China, mainland China, shortly after Nixon visited and "opened it" via a peaceful process, I came away with an observation that is proving very true: quite simply that as one of the first Americans to visit China and to then expose the leaders and people to another lifestyle that meant on the simplist level one didn't have to wear a navy Mao suit every day, such would result in their pusuit of freedom and democracy, self-owned business and a better life than one room apartments for multiple familes without sanitary provisions, forced "re-education", etc.
This has happened, yes with turmoil, but simply because of exposure via tourism (in both directions), radio, TV, movies, commerce and most recently the Internet.
Is their journey complete? By no means. But their country has progressed without someone striking down from on top to tell them "how it should be".

 
At 01 June, 2006 06:49, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's hard to believe that Chinese citizens looked at Nixon and said, "Wow! How can we be more like THAT guy!"

But your point is well taken. Diplomatic engagement with "rogue states" can be as effective or more effective than military engagement, and at the same time really has no downside (as long as you don't give away the store like Neville Chamberlain) ...

 
At 01 June, 2006 12:07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

rmfd--Whoa, not Nixon that they looked at, but some of us more ordinary Americans that they could see, touch and coverse with (via an interpreter). Nixon made it possible for us and others to be there.

 
At 06 June, 2006 14:48, Blogger Christopher said...

here's some more on Beinart's book.

DGL - I think this Niehbur that Beinart's big on is the Reinhold Niehbur who taught at Eden Seminary and influenced many young ministers who went on to work in Kingfisher.

Apparently his influence was still strong in the late '70s.

 
At 07 June, 2006 07:06, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldn't get that link to work.

But yes, I believe Niehbur was a big influence on Revs. LHL and MLK as well.

 
At 07 June, 2006 11:13, Blogger Christopher said...

yeah, i don't know what's up with the link. it's a discussion on talkingpointsmemo - i think in the tpmcafe section.

lhl says that there were a lot of kingfisher church members who'd been indirectly influenced by niehbur - a few students of his went on to work at the federated church. something he was surprised to find in an oklahoma town of 3,000.

 

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19 May 2006

Strange Days

To get a feel for the strange goings ons in Washington lately, the essential oddness of what is said and done, we need to look no further than the past ten days.

Within this short span of time (or is ten days now considered a lifetime in politics?) the administration went from pushing a liberal pro-immigrant policy to a 'send in the National Guard to the border'policy. My first reaction was, 'is there not a problem that Bush won't send the military to solve?' and 'what National Guard?'

It turns out the troops are being sent not to do any guarding, but to watch the shop so the border patrol can crack heads. Come again? So I guess we have enough border patrol as is, but they're all stuck in their cubicles until the Guard rescues them from office bondage.

Apparently this would be a short-term solution. How short term? I'd guess through about November of '06. Hell, if I were in the Guard I'd much rather go down to the border and make coffee and copies for a few months than dodge IED's in Iraq. Those may be the kind of duties Bush had in mind when he signed up for his strange interlude in the Guard.

And just in case the National Guard can't get the job done, Bush will turn to some old friends to help pitch in.

The Senate, which had been pursuing a more moderate bill than the draconian house, is now pushing the constructions of a giant wall on the Mexican border. Ooh, how Berlin! We'll turn to Matthew Yglesias for why this is lunacy.

McCain gave a good commencement speech this weekend at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University. This speech, of course, is part of McCain's pre primary warmup where he sees just how right wing he can get. He's popular among the moderates and liberals, but he needs the right to get the nomination.

This is all well and good (and I would argue not that cynical as McCain is essentially a conservative and this maverick business has more to do with his personality) but liberals/moderates should take a sober look at the figure they've wrapped their arms around. Richard Cohen and Michael Kinsley get the ball rolling. Kinsley in particular captures the oddity of a candidate trying to win over voters who agree with him, and hold on to those who don't.

Sen. Pat Roberts kicked off the confirmation hearings of CIA nominee Michael Hayden with this doozy "I am a strong supporter of the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment and civil liberties. But you have no civil liberties if you are dead,’ Roberts said.” - Lawrence Journal World.

Ahh. This reminds me of the recent senate debate over the Patriot Act when John Cornyn spat the Roberts line only to be met with Russ Feingold's historical retort "give me liberty or give me death."

Here's another oddity: "Even baby Jesus accepted gifts and I don't believe it corrupted him." - Rep. Drew Saunders, D-Mecklenburg, in support of an amendment to the legislative ethics bill that lowers the monetary threshold on gifts lawmakers may receive from neighbors and state employees. (The Charlotte Observer)

Some more noise on the CIA leak case. Jason Leopold writes that Rove has been indicted already, but this seems unlikely. We do know that the grand jury has been busy and that Fitzgerald has spent a huge amount of time in Robert Luskin's (Rove's attorney) office. MSNBC reporter David Shuster goes out on a limb and predicts Rove will be indicted. All of this activity is about a week old and nothing concrete has emerged yet.

But in the rumor department, it looks like former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage is either a target of the leak investigation, or a major witness against Rove.

Trivia question for foreign policy zealots out there. What major post was Bobby Ray Inman nominated for by Bill Clinton? Why did that nomination go down in flames?

And the wiretapping is just warming up.

Send in the national guard to protect us from the Mexicans! Send in the man in charge of executing warrantless domestic spying to head the CIA!

Send in the clowns.

6 Comments:

At 19 May, 2006 13:20, Blogger Unknown said...

Well, there's a lot to take in from your delicious post, Mr Lee.

Though I fear I'm typing myself, I did want to point those interested to Stephen Colbert's recent bit on the wire-tap warm-up Chris mentioned; damn that guy's funny--and satirical. (Here's hoping that link works.)

Ah, Pat Roberts, how I long for the days when you seemed like the reasonable Senator from Kansas. . . .

Love the song clip.

 
At 23 May, 2006 14:00, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coincidentally, I found myself on a flight from KC to D.C. yesterday with practically the entire KS delegation: Roberts, Brownback, Dennis Moore, and Jerry Moran. (Also, seated next to me was outgoing Lawrence Mayor Boog Highberger--we talked KS politics for most of the way).

I prayed throughout that Sen. Roberts' apparent death wish would not come true. Fortunately, our lives were preserved, but as for our civil liberties ... I think CR's post says it all.

 
At 25 May, 2006 07:29, Blogger Unknown said...

Well, you sure seem the jet-setter these days, DGL.

I hope you all at least had the dignity to fly coach.

Can Boog still be called 'outgoing Mayor' a month and a half after Amyx took over? Is 'City Commissioner' not impressive enough?

I don't suppose the national delegation spoke much with our former Mayor? Funny tension there with dear Sen. Roberts, I imagine, as Roberts recently weighed in on the 30-year controversy over the South Lawrence Trafficway: he asked the Tonganoxie City Council (?) to endorse the route that's been opposed both by the Lawrence City Commission and now by the Lawrence-Douglas County Planning Commission.

Opposed why, you ask? Mainly because it goes through some wetlands, though of course it's always more complicated than it sounds. . . .

Where is Tonganoxie, anyway? Well, it's in Leavenworth County; here's a map.

Ah local politics. . . .

 
At 26 May, 2006 07:11, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jet-setter? I was only visiting you guys and HOH. Have you forgotten the weekend already?

Midwest, as it turns out, doesn't have first-class seats (or at least this plane didn't), because all the seats are so spacious that everyone gets first-class treatment; free cookies, too. For the politicians, this allows them to enjoy all the amenities while still mixing with the commoners.

Maybe I just meant Highberger was an outgoing fellow. He chatted with Dennis Moore, but not with Roberts.

 
At 26 May, 2006 08:40, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice shot from the USA Today editorial board this morning:

"Now we know what it takes to make Congress mad enough to stand up for constitutional rights."

"When the government snoops on your phone calls and records without warrants, lawmakers barely kick up a fuss. But when the target is a fellow congressman — one under investigation for taking a bribe, no less — they're ready to rumble."

 
At 30 May, 2006 08:38, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know if anyone's still reading this thread, but I forgot to respond earlier to your Bobby Ray Inman trivia question.

He was a former admiral and NSA director nominated by Clinton to be Secretary of Defense in 1993. He withdrew his nomination in a televised press conference, claiming to be the victim of a concerted smear campaign by William Safire and Bob Dole, among others.

I can't find any unbiased accounts of the nomination and withdrawal. Either he was a paranoid nutcase with an anti-Israel bias, or he was a great American undone by a pro-Zionist conspiracy. Do you have anything to add to this, CR?

 

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11 May 2006

Left-ward Ho?

Okay, DGL sent me this column by Niall Ferguson (about whom, I'll add a few minutes after the fact, I am generally suspicious though largely ignorant) the other day, and originally I was just going to email him with some off-the-cuff remarks and say I was too busy with grading, etc, to do a blog post, but instead I've decided to just do a hasty post; enjoy.

Now Ferguson 'cautions' readers of a 'left turn,' citing a few recent and/or upcoming events:
First he mentions the decision by newly elected Bolivian President Evo Morales — predicted in this column Feb. 13 — to nationalize his country's energy sector.

But the swing to the left is not a purely Latin American story. The left won last month's Italian elections. The French government recently caved in to street protests by trade unions and leftist students. And in the United States, the Democrats are poised to make gains in the November midterm elections.


The contributing factors he mentions include 1) wealth disparity--Income distribution in the U.S. has not been this unequal since before World War II — the last time that the top 1% of earners accounted for more than 14% of all income (excluding capital gains). The average pay for a chief executive in the U.S. increased 27% last year to more than $11 million. By contrast, the average wage earner took home less than $45,000 in 2004, up roughly 3% from the year before.

He also mentions 2) xenophobia: You might think rising immigration would lead to a backlash on the right, not the left, and you'd be right. But the net effect of xenophobia — which is most likely to be felt by blue-collar, indigenous voters — is often to benefit the left because it tends to split the right.

Sadly, Ferguson seems right about xenophobia, so I'll focus on the more interesting economic issue. Something should be done, and I'd like to see Democrats seize on this issue (though of course they probably won't, out of fear of engaging in 'class warfare'--I say engage!)

Now I personally find myself in a state of guarded enthusiasm about Morales--nationalization such as Bolivia has enacted, in which the state will own 51% of the energy sector (more or less), strikes me as an excellent way of ensuring that the country's wealth will benefit its citizens, and of that I approve.

In the past, I have been accused of having a naïve attachment to left-leaning populists. Morales seems like a good guy to me, but what do you, reader, think of him?

One last note: it seems very odd to me that Ferguson associates the Democrats of the US with folk like Morales. Surely it is misleading to suggest that the Democrats have much in common with true leftists like Morales or Italy's Romano Prodi. I am sure that if our Democrats ran for election in Italy or Bolivia, they would, alas, be seen as a right-wing party. . . .

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At 12 May, 2006 07:43, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know much about Ferguson either. My impression is he's an Economist-style semi-conservative, yet he shows some sensitivity to class issues in this article.

What I take out of this, for better or worse, is that people are unlikely to revert to leftism in good times--it certainly didn't happen in the Clinton years. It takes a certain amount of economic desperation for left-wing movements to rise (and it doesn't always happen then either).

While the White House continually reminds us that the economy is booming, Americans as a whole aren't buying it right now. Just because you tell people they're doing better doesn't make it so. These are good days for Wall Street but not for the middle and lower classes. I think it's becoming more and more clear to the electorate that this administration and Republicans in general not only will tolerate income inequality, they actively promote it.

These factors (along with Iraq and others) mean we'll probably be lurching leftward (though not as far as YHD would like) in the next election or two.

I don't know much about Morales either. I'm not inherently opposed to what he has done; I hope it works. But there is a danger whenever too much power is centralized, whether the govt. is left- or right-wing ...

 
At 12 May, 2006 10:06, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few random comments...or questions.
Is Morales not just taking his country backwards to when the government controlled everything and the people suffered even more so with no freedoms or economic possibilities?
Will his actions and Chavez' just lead to more dictatorships and holding back of true individual growth?
In Woodward's book, The Maestro, about Alan Greenspan, he makes it abundantly clear that Pres Clinton was the biggest supporter of his economic and market policies, more so than any Republican and that the ensuing stability and growth in the economy and stock markets was because of Clinton's strong support, the support of a Democrat.
Putting aside the current leadership of the USA, it is the basis of this country as a republic with democratic formation of government and free enterprise for individuals and business, that has enable the country to be as prosperous as it is, where even the 'poor' are better off than almost anywhere else in the world (not that we should applaud or rest easy)and where this system of lifestyle and government puts the emphasis on the individual vs the government has proven to be beneficial to the vast majority of citizens...elsewhy do so many from so many parts of the globe want to live here even if it means crossing a desert.
--rmfd

 
At 12 May, 2006 11:04, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the other day Henry Kissinger came to Columbia and said some funny things about how he still didn't understand all that nasty business surrounding the Watergate scandal. He also said the decision to publish stories on the Pentagon Papers was criminal. Then he said that the journalism of his day was much more intelligent than it is today. I wondered what journalism he was talking about. Not that today's is worth a damn...

 
At 12 May, 2006 21:42, Blogger Unknown said...

I guess what troubles me most about Ferguson is that revisionist history stuff, and in particular the suggestion that it might not have been so bad had Germany won WWI. . . .

I think yesterday's tax-cut vote supports DGL's claims about Republicans, and I sure hope he's right that people will soon stop accepting such offensive policies.

And, yes, we may never expect to move as far left as I would appear to like; and yet I keep on.

As for the anonymous comment, I have never much liked Clinton, and I certainly don't think that a few years of economic stability are worth the sacrifices made during his presidency--if the boom is a credit to Clinton and Greenspan, then surely the bust is too. Paul Krugman (I know, I know) ran a nice column recently on the many short-comings of the Greenspan tenure (get it here free!).

As for our great country, I thought that much of the success in the last century was the result of progressive programs (and progressive taxes) such as those put in place by FDR--unbridled capitalism led to a crash, and social welfare programs restored real economic prosperity (or so I've been told). In any case, the freedom to profit cannot take precedence over people’s basic right to security and equal opportunity, can it? Can it?

Kissinger? Damn. I would say, though, that for my money bugging another party pales in comparison to extraordinary rendition, torture, and warrantless domestic spying. . . .

And I love Evo Morales; should natural resources benefit the citizens of a nation? Yes! Left, I say, left!

 
At 15 May, 2006 06:58, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're all over the place, Yancy: anti-Greenspan, anti-Clinton, anti-Kissinger, anti-Kaiser Wilhelm.

The Krugman article was good but it contradicts your anti-Clinton comments; he credits the '90s boom to Clinton's tax increases. I'd be interested to hear why you think Clinton is also to blame for the bust; sounds like Bush-spin to me.

Though some would say I lean left, I like the balance we've struck in this country over the years between pure capitalism and socialism; going too far in either direction is destructive, if world history is any indication.

I'd say there's a big difference between the New Deal and nationalizing a major industry. Morales's actions so far are benefiting his people only in theory. If he can make it work, more power to him, but there's good reason for skepticism.

 
At 15 May, 2006 07:27, Blogger Unknown said...

You may be right, DGL, I may just dislike anyone who's not Dennis Kucinich. . . .

I did not mean to suggest that all of the policies inacted under Clinton were bad ones, or that the current administration is not to blame for the current economic morass. I don't think, though, that Alan Greenspan's seal of approval marks Clinton's policies as good, since Greenspan also approved of Bush's policies. It is also true, spin aside, that the dot-com thing peaked before Bush took office, and in retrospect that peak seems obviously unsustainable.

Was I anti-Kissinger? All I said was 'damn,' as in 'he's an impressive guest lecturer' . . .

Finally, thanks for requesting clarification: I do not claim that Morales is FDR, only that our nation's wealth is not solely the product of "free enterprise for individuals and business."

 
At 15 May, 2006 07:54, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK. Now we're in agreement.

Sorry, I know the last person you'd want to impugn is Kissinger. (He could have you assassinated).

 

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05 May 2006

Everything is Connected

That is the somewhat annoying tagline to the movie, SYRIANA. But it's true not only for SYRIANA'S portrait of the oil industry and foreign affairs, but it's a good place to begin when unpacking our current economic, political, and foreign policy woes.

It's also a good place to begin when promoting alternative solutions. Michael Tomasky of The American Prospect makes the case for Democrats to rally around the common good.

Courtesy of the washington monthly, we have a lovely vision of the Republican response to the gas price crisis.

On Scarbrough Country last night, Chris Matthews and Joe Scarbrough mocked the Republican plan to give Americans a $100 gas rebate. Matthews said it smacked of 'let them eat cake.'

Here, I should give credit to Matthews for being tenacious about the Bush Administration's policies while often fawning over the president personally. Matthews definitely gets wound up in the political cult of personality, but he was constantly challenging the intel on Iraq, and the lack of real debate on the issue in the lead up to the war - not just afterward. Hardball has lately been ahead of the pack in highlighting new details on the CIA leak case and in the Duke Cunningham/Watergate/Hooker scandal. Between Hardball, and Countdown with Keith Olbermann, MSNBC's prime time is the place to go if you're sick of Fox and the ineffectual CNN.

Recently on Hardball, Howard Dean connected the high gas prices with the Iraq debacle.

Chris Matthews also had a terrific interview with Tyler Drumheller and Gary Bernstein, two former CIA officials with troubling accounts of working with the administration.

Steve Clemons of the Washington Note explores the our current Iran strategy here and here.

Never rule out the possibility that Bush will escalate the tensions with Iran to put the Democrats on the defensive in the midterm elections. This happened in 2002. This doesn't require Bush to actually attack Iran, it just means he has to push the issue, and make Democrats pick a side. The problem with all this is, if Bush goes that route, it will have implications our standoff with Iran. Even if you have little or no intention of invading, there is a momentum of events in foreign affairs that can have dire consequences.

Democrats need to come out unified and opposed to any escalation in hostilities with Iran. It's not the non-issue that Social Security Reform was, but with Iran being unable to procure nukes until at least 5 or 10 years, and the fact that our military is stretched thin in Iraq and Afghanistan, Dems need to rally against this like they did last year against Bush's Social Security scheme.

Dems have to get their house in order as they ask voters to connect the dots on the Republican "culture of corruption." They need to not cover for Rep. William Jefferson who's been accused of accepting a $400,000 bribe from a telecommunications firm. Today, Nancy Pelosi called on the House ethics committee to investigate Jefferson, but yesterday she left a different impression.

This probably won't help either, but it should be easy enough to isolate a story about drunk driving and special treatment when the congressman in question is a Kennedy.

A post from me would be incomplete without some mention of the CIA leak case. Newsweek has a great piece on how Fitzgerald zeroed in on Rove.

And finally, a former CIA analyst gives Rumsfeld the business. Notice how Rumsfeld is still hiding behind Colin Powell's credibility. More on the CIA analyst here.

The lies begat the mess in Iraq, which begat the gas prices, which are further aggravated by our saber rattling toward Iran, which is clouded by the mess in Iraq, which begat the leaks to cover for the lies about Iraq, which hampered our ability to track the progress of Iran's nuclear
program.

I haven't yet connected all this to Patrick Kennedy's car crash or Duke Cunningham's hooker parties in Watergate, but maybe Stephen Gaghan can explain it all in SYRIANA II.



Whoa - breaking news - CIA director Porter Goss has resigned. There have been rumors about his possible involvement in the Duke Cunningham/Hookergate scandal. Could this be the final connection I was looking for?

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At 05 May, 2006 10:49, Blogger Scott James said...

Hey, can someone send me an invite to this?

I like politics and stuff.

 
At 05 May, 2006 11:26, Blogger Unknown said...

How about an invitation to comment to your heart's content?

 
At 05 May, 2006 14:16, Blogger Christopher said...

Some updates on the Porter Goss resignation.

Laura Rozen of warandpiece.com writes that Goss may be getting forced out due to his hiring of Kyle "Dusty" Foggo who was links to the Duke Cunningham bribery scandal. Duke was bribed by Brent Wilkes in exchange for "help in landing millions of dollars in federal contracts." - american progress action fund.

Foggo is an "Executive Director . . . and the agency's (cia) third ranking official." Foggo "admitted he attended the poker parties thrown by Wilkes . . . though he denies ever seeing prostitutes at the gatherings."

More from the American Progress Action Fund:

"The alleged links between Goss, Foggo, and Wilkes have led some to return to questions raised when Goss initially selected Foggo to be executive director in November 2004."

 
At 05 May, 2006 14:34, Blogger Unknown said...

CR (can I call you CR?), that was an excellent post, almost poetry, that paragraph of connections.

On Goss, this quotation from the BBC story nicely illustrates, or so it seems, the dangerous nature of the ineptitude of this Administration:
There have also been rumblings of discontent at the CIA's headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

He upset some staff by bringing in several top aides from Congress, who were thought by some in the CIA to be too political.

Several high-level CIA staff have resigned recently.

Jane Harman, the leading Democrat on the House intelligence committee, said last week: "The CIA is in a free fall."

"I've never been as concerned about our nation's security as I am this week," she said.

Now, is his resignation necessarily good? It all depends, I suppose, on the replacement.

Loved the hydrogen car/SUV photo; Emily's one-word reaction: "disgusting."

You know, the "common good" seems too saccharine for me, and I am not familiar with the philosophical underpinnings to which Tomasky appeals. Now this may sound simplistic, but "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" is the phrase, right? I don't hear self-sacrifice or the common good there, though I do distinctly hear mention of rights. . . .

For my money the Beinart piece I mentioned the other day gets it much closer to right: what liberals can offer are two valuable insights. First, economic security is a pre-condition for democracy, not a result of it (compare China and India if you don't believe me). Liberals, then, ought to work to promote economic security around the world. As Beinart puts it, "liberals have traditionally distinguished themselves from conservatives by insisting that to promote liberty, America must promote opportunity as well." Here here.

Second, being open to correction (or, as it is derisively known, self-doubt) is a virtue. A foreign (or domestic, for that matter) policy predicated on a dogmatic certainty in being right (sound familiar?) is a bad policy. Not only does it alienate other nations, it both denies the possibility of improvement and fails to separate, in Beinart's terms, idealism from fanaticism.

One crucial feature of this virtuous, non-dogmatic idealism is that the US ought not see itself as fit to tell other nations what to do; countries must be allowed to make their own choices--dogmatically to assert the rightness of our way of life is, again, bad policy. A great Truman quote in the Beinart article: "We all have to recognize, no matter how great our strength . . . that we must deny ourselves the license to do always as we please."

In other words, a platform focused around these values (idealism instead of fanaticism, and a recognition that economic development is of key importance) is a platform that I like quite a bit, and one that, I suppose, might even be nicely sound-bitten into a paean to the common good. . . .

 
At 06 May, 2006 15:45, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goss lasted way longer than anyone expected because there was a firestorm within months of his appointment when he started ignoring 'super agents' comments, suggestions and intel; and in fact many of the most highly trained agents left because of his political motivations including most department heads.
The only reason one can give to his remaining of the job (?) so long is Bush's inability to fire anyone until the mud turns into quicksand...another story, but illustrates why he (Bush) is sinking into the quicksand himself.
--rmfd

 
At 08 May, 2006 14:42, Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the subject of Hastert's phony energy efficiency photo-op, it should be noted that Democrats in Congress have been guilty of similar hypocrisies.

(Thanks to YHD for helping me re-post this).

 
At 10 May, 2006 09:51, Blogger Christopher said...

I may be wrong, but I didn't see anything about Democrats making a show of driving a particular kind of car to an event only to switch cars a block away.

Obviously, these are publicity things, and people would rather not pull up in their big suv's (although one democrat did) but to make a show of pulling up in hybrids, and get caught switching to an suv a block away, is funny.

Riding in the hybrid is about the picture. But a different picture will be remembered.

 
At 10 May, 2006 12:58, Blogger Christopher said...

Cheney on Goss:
"He didn't have to take the job. He took it on at a very difficult time, and I think he's done a reasonably good job at it, too."

from the washington post

 

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01 May 2006

Oh Snap

Originally I intended to discuss Peter Beinart's excellent piece in the Times Magazine on the virtues of old-school liberalism, but it'll have to wait, since I thought I'd take things easy for the day and put up these videos of Stephen Colbert's speech at the White House Correspondents' Dinner the other day. Funny stuff.

[update, 5 May] Okay, I guess YouTube had to take the video down. It's still available through C-SPAN, here. If the link gives you trouble, you can just open RealPlayer and ask it to open this address: rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/60days/wh042906_colbert.rm?mode=compact.

Part One:

Some highlights: Wow. Wow, what an honor. The White House correspondents' dinner. To actually sit here, at the same table with my hero, George W. Bush, to be this close to the man. I feel like I'm dreaming. Somebody pinch me. You know what? I'm a pretty sound sleeper -- that may not be enough. Somebody shoot me in the face. Is he really not here tonight? Dammit. The one guy who could have helped.

I believe the government that governs best is the government that governs least. And by these standards, we have set up a fabulous government in Iraq.

I stand by this man. I stand by this man because he stands for things. Not only for things, he stands on things. Things like aircraft carriers and rubble and recently flooded city squares. And that sends a strong message, that no matter what happens to America, she will always rebound -- with the most powerfully staged photo ops in the world.

Part Two:

A highlight: See who we've got here tonight. General Moseley, Air Force Chief of Staff. General Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They still support Rumsfeld. Right, you guys aren't retired yet, right? Right, they still support Rumsfeld.

And a couple for DGL: John McCain is here. John McCain, John McCain, what a maverick! Somebody find out what fork he used on his salad, because I guarantee you it wasn't a salad fork. This guy could have used a spoon! There's no predicting him. By the way, Senator McCain, it's so wonderful to see you coming back into the Republican fold. I have a summer house in South Carolina; look me up when you go to speak at Bob Jones University. So glad you've seen the light, sir.

Mayor Nagin is here from New Orleans, the chocolate city! Yeah, give it up. Mayor Nagin, I'd like to welcome you to Washington, D.C., the chocolate city with a marshmallow center. And a graham cracker crust of corruption. It's a Mallomar, I guess is what I'm describing, a seasonal cookie.

Part Three:

. . . and with Bush right there. Beautiful.

Quotes courtesy of DailyKos (full transcript).

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At 02 May, 2006 07:32, Blogger Christopher said...

That stuff is very funny. I especially like the line about the glass being 1/3 full but don't drink the backwash.

I'm not so big on the Helen Thomas video he brought. I actually think this is a funnier Correspondents Dinner video.

Clinton doesn't have great comic timing, but he's an enthusiastic performer.

Some details on the days before Valerie Plame could attend the White House Correspondents Dinner.

From a David Shuster report on HARDBALL, "INTELLIGENCE SOURCES SAY VALERIE WILSON WAS PART OF AN OPERATION THREE YEARS AGO TRACKING THE PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS MATERIAL INTO IRAN. AND THE SOURCES ALLEGE THAT WHEN MRS. WILSON'S COVER WAS BLOWN, THE ADMINISTRATION'S ABILITY TO TRACK IRAN'S NUCLEAR AMBITIONS WAS DAMAGED AS WELL."

Shuster then goes on to talk more about Rove's status in the leak investigation "EARLY IN THE CASE, ROVE ADMITTED TO INVESTIGATORS THAT HE OUTED VALERIE WILSON'S IDENTITY TO COLUMNIST ROBERT NOVAK -- NOVAK WAS THE FIRST JOURNALIST TO PUBLISH WILSON'S IDENTITY AND THE FIRST TO TALK ABOUT IT TO INVESTIGATORS.

AND LAST WEEK, KARL ROVE TESTIFIED AGAIN HE MAY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE WILSON'S WITH TIME MAGAZINE'S MATT COOPER.

ROVE SAID HE DENIED THAT UNDER OATH FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE INVESTIGATION BECAUSE OF MEMORY PROBLEMS. A CASE OF BAD MEMORY IS SCOOTER LIBBY'S DEFENSE.

BUT IN REGARDS TO KARL ROVE, LAWYERS IN THE CASE SAY PROSECUTOR FITZGERALD IS STILL TROUBLED BY THE TIMING OF ROVE'S ROLLING DISCLOSURES: IT SEEMS THAT ROVE'S MEMORY PERKS UP WITH EVERY NEW INDICATION SOMEONE ELSE WILL EXPOSE HIM. WHEN ROVE FINALLY BEGAN TO UPDATE HIS TESTIMONY IN OCTOBER 2004... IT WAS JUST DAYS AFTER COOPER WAS FIRST HELD IN CONTEMPT FOR REFUSING TO DISCLOSE CONFIDENTIAL SOURCES. AND ROVE DID NOT GIVE COOPER A CLEAR WAIVER TO TESTIFY UNTIL AFTER COOPER'S APPEALS HAD BEEN EXHAUSTED 9 MONTHS LATER . . . THE WILSONS SAY THEY'VE SPOKEN TO PROSECUTOR PATRICK FITZGERALD TWICE SINCE THE CASE BEGAN... AND THE LAST TIME WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. SO, THEY ARE WAITING, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, FOR SOME SORT OF ANNOUNCEMENT FROM FITZGERALD'S OFFICE ABOUT ROVE. KARL ROVE'S ATTORNEYS SAY THEY'VE BEEN TOLD BY FITZGERALD THAT NO DECISION WILL BE MADE FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER WEEK. CHRIS?"

 
At 02 May, 2006 07:38, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colbert didn't get a lot of laughs, and a lot of people are saying he flopped. He did flub at least one of the jokes and the Helen Thomas thing went on way too long.

He did a good joke on his show last night about the "worshipful silence" he received from the audience.

But the main reason no one laughed was that his political satire cut too close to the bone for a cheesy event like the Correspondents Dinner. (I have no idea why they invited him). Like Letterman with the Oscars, it's a credit to Colbert that this lame audience didn't appreciate him.

You have to love the fact that he didn't pull any punches even though he HAD to know his material wasn't going to go over well in the room.

 
At 02 May, 2006 08:13, Blogger Christopher said...

James Wolcott's take:
"A note about the Stephen Colbert monologue at the Correspondents' Dinner that Elisabeth Bumiller seems to have slept through face-down in her entree. No question the stint played better on TV than it did in the room with C-SPAN cutting to gowned lovelies in the audience with glaceed expressions and tuxedo'd men making with the nervous eyes, but to say he "bombed" or "stunk up the place" (Jonah Goldberg's usual elegance) is wishful thinking on behalf of the wishful thinkers on the right, who have nothing but wishful thinking to prop them up during the day.

I know what bombing looks like. It looks like Don Imus when he did a standup monologue before President and Hillary Clinton, and went over so badly that sweat broke out in rivulets down his face and in parts unseen. What triggered the perspiration cascade was a sexual innuendo about how Clinton rooted for his favorite football team by yelling, "Go baby!" at the TV, which Imus remarked was probably not the first time he had voiced such a giddyup--an allusion to Clinton's poontang exploits, if you'll pardon the expression. Imus gave such a crass performance and caused such embarrassment to himself and everybody in the room that there were calls for apologies and he was in danger of being as contaminated as Whoopie Goldberg and Ted Danson briefly were after their unfortunate blackface episode.

See, that was Colbert's mistake. He didn't slip in any smutty lines. Had he done so, his standup would have been impossible to ignore as the Fox News hotheads would have gone into full outrage mode to defend the honor of Laura Bush and her virgin ears. Instead, Colbert was cool, methodical, and mercilessly ironic, not getting rattled when the audience quieted with discomfort (and resorting to self-deprecating "savers," as most comedians do), but closing in on the kill, as unsparing of the press as he was of the president. I mean no disrespect to Jon Stewart to say that in the same circumstances, he would have resorted to shtick; Colbert didn't. Apart from flubbing the water-half-empty joke about Bush's poll ratings, he was in full command of his tone, comic inflection, and line of attack. The we-are-not-amused smile Laura Bush gave him when he left the podium was a priceless tribute to the displeasure he incurred. To me, Colbert looked very relaxed after the Bushes left the room and he greeted audience members, signed autographs. And why wouldn't he be? He achieved exactly what he wanted to achieve, delivered the message he intended to deliver. Mission accomplished."
jameswolcott.com

 
At 02 May, 2006 08:57, Blogger Unknown said...

That Wolcott piece seems to get it right. In fact, for my money the lack of laughs made the whole thing funnier--as DGL said, why would they invite him? Who would not have seen this coming?

I don't know if I'd go as far as the 'speaking truth to power' sentiment of some on the 'left'--after all, the shock wasn't in the content (Valerie W., Rumsfeld, low poll numbers--all of that is well-worn material by now), but rather in the situation . . . not to buy into Colbert's persona's talk, but it took some balls to stand right there next to the president and compare his administration not to the Titanic but instead to the Hindenburg.

 
At 02 May, 2006 14:55, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure why Wolcott believes it's "wishful thinking" on conservatives' part to say Colbert bombed, as though there's some objective measure of satire that he passed and Imus failed. The fact is, he didn't get big laughs, partly because he was slightly off (IMO) and partly because the audience wanted polite, apolitical humor.

I agree w/ YHD about context being more important than content. Imagine how uncomfortable it had to be for Bush, Rove, McLellan, etc. to sit there and listen to a pointed rehash (in the monologue and the video) of their most embarrassing and in some cases (literally) incriminating moments.

My favorite bit was the one about Bush's knack for photo ops--that HAD to smart!

 
At 03 May, 2006 08:55, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure you've already seen it, but this morning Slate's Troy Patterson praised Colbert's performance. He acknowledged that the Helen Thomas video was too long, but mainly blamed the uptight audience:

"Who did they think they were getting? Mark Russell?"

 
At 03 May, 2006 14:21, Blogger Unknown said...

I in turn am sure you saw this, but the Times ran an interesting meta-story today about the online buzz about the dinner.

An especially meta-moment, with a twist of--what was that, exactly, some sort of self-defense mechanism?--judgment:
Others chided the so-called mainstream media, including The New York Times, which ignored Mr. Colbert's remarks while writing about the opening act, a self-deprecating bit Mr. Bush did with a Bush impersonator.
Some, though, saw nothing more sinister in the silence of news organizations than a decision to ignore a routine that, to them, just was not funny.


Huh. And was the Bushx2 routine funny, then?

 
At 08 May, 2006 13:43, Blogger Unknown said...

Okay, C-SPAN is a shifty mistress, but they've let google video (why not YouTube? search me) run the clip. Here's a nice reliable link (until someone changes their mind again): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879&q=colbert.

 

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